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Indeed and I bet they all have different accounts of what this reality is. Anyone can say they’re enlightened and many have claim to be so , so how could we tell
What differentiates a personal spiritual experience from a psychotic delusion or hallucination? How can you ascribe any objectivity to such experience?
I don't and I can't but I assume I am not... But I do think we are all fundamentally "neurotic" or delusional (for lack of a better term) in nature, a consequence of consciousness...
Perception is a quirky thing. We already know scientifically we don't really "percieve" reality in any real way directly. It is just electical signals going into our brains, where things are interpreted, colored by our own previous experience, memories and whatnot.
I am not going to describe my personal experience to you, as you seem antagonistic and don't seem to care either way.
Don’t then. How am I antagonistic? If you don’t like being asked to justify your many assertions maybe you shouldn’t be on a debate site. Also I’m asking you how and you’re saying I don’t care , I guess you just cannot explain it
My spiritual experiences always come in the form of a change in consciousness, and it always involves energy. I can feel the energy going through my chakras and nadis. I have had visions, voices, dreams showing me and giving me new information. I believe this is how enlightenment works, you get more information the more you work with your chakras. For instance, I started out seeing the number 108 on clocks, and this would come with a small, usually brief, change in consciousness. Then I would research whatever new information was given to me. I have dreams sent to me, these always feel different and important. Like the one with two bears, which led me to the precession of the equinoxes, and how it is affecting some people's change in consciousness. I think you learn different levels of information as you work on each chakra. I am currently stuck in working on my third chakra.
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No offence but it sounds exactly like the sort of nonsense Deepak Chopra comes out with and I put it in the same category as Auras , crystal healing , remote viewing etc , etc , pseudoscientific nonsense
Buddhism and it’s 4 noble truths always struck me as entirely sensible and as a belief system there’s much to admire , also Buddha told people to question everything and do not take his word on matters , what other spiritual leader has ever said that?
As I understand, in Eastern philosophies enlightenment is the goal, unachievable, but approachable. You cannot reach the state where you are "enlightened", but you can get arbitrarily close to that state.
Enlightenment is achieved through hard work, but by ultimately realising that it is a state of being, not acting. That is you have to go through a lot of psychological struggle to understand how to let go of all struggle and enjoy being in the present.
I personally do not see the enlightenment as the right goal to have. I aim not at being present, but at living in tune with my inner self. There is nothing wrong with thinking about the past or the future, or daydreaming - these are all amazing things that enrich our lives, and staying in the present 24/7 sounds fairly boring. However, thinking and daydreaming should be done in a way that allows your inner self to manifest, and not in a way that the society wants. This is the key element of my personal self-development work.
The way I understand it is that enlightment It’s not a stage like puberty that everyone goes through. However there are stages one must go through to achieve enlightenment.
Although enlightenment can occur, in a way it is like puberty because we discover it during different stages of our life. But of course, an epiphany occurs when someone humbles themselves to allow their understanding of reality to be changed. This allows for more enlightenment to develop through hard work and etching out a new paths to awareness to develop.
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What exactly is “enlightenment”? How do we know if someone is “enlightened”?
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Enlightenment is when you come to the understanding of what reality is. Only those who are enlightened can know what that looks like.
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I'm not sure we COULD tell.
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Exactly , so why believe any such claims?
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Personal spiritual experience points in that direction, that there will be enlightenment for each individual.
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What differentiates a personal spiritual experience from a psychotic delusion or hallucination? How can you ascribe any objectivity to such experience?
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You cannot. How do you know YOU are not insane?
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I don't and I can't but I assume I am not... But I do think we are all fundamentally "neurotic" or delusional (for lack of a better term) in nature, a consequence of consciousness...
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What is “spiritual experience “? How does it “point in that direction “? Is every enlightened persons view of reality the very same?
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I am not going to describe my personal experience to you, as you seem antagonistic and don't seem to care either way.
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Perception is a quirky thing. We already know scientifically we don't really "percieve" reality in any real way directly. It is just electical signals going into our brains, where things are interpreted, colored by our own previous experience, memories and whatnot.
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Don’t then. How am I antagonistic? If you don’t like being asked to justify your many assertions maybe you shouldn’t be on a debate site. Also I’m asking you how and you’re saying I don’t care , I guess you just cannot explain it
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Of course I can explain.
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That’s all I’m asking so go ahead please
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My spiritual experiences always come in the form of a change in consciousness, and it always involves energy. I can feel the energy going through my chakras and nadis. I have had visions, voices, dreams showing me and giving me new information. I believe this is how enlightenment works, you get more information the more you work with your chakras. For instance, I started out seeing the number 108 on clocks, and this would come with a small, usually brief, change in consciousness. Then I would research whatever new information was given to me. I have dreams sent to me, these always feel different and important. Like the one with two bears, which led me to the precession of the equinoxes, and how it is affecting some people's change in consciousness. I think you learn different levels of information as you work on each chakra. I am currently stuck in working on my third chakra.
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It is one of the religions I study
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No offence but it sounds exactly like the sort of nonsense Deepak Chopra comes out with and I put it in the same category as Auras , crystal healing , remote viewing etc , etc , pseudoscientific nonsense
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That's fine I understand your viewpoint
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Buddhism and it’s 4 noble truths always struck me as entirely sensible and as a belief system there’s much to admire , also Buddha told people to question everything and do not take his word on matters , what other spiritual leader has ever said that?
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Enlightenment is achieved through hard work, but by ultimately realising that it is a state of being, not acting. That is you have to go through a lot of psychological struggle to understand how to let go of all struggle and enjoy being in the present.
I personally do not see the enlightenment as the right goal to have. I aim not at being present, but at living in tune with my inner self. There is nothing wrong with thinking about the past or the future, or daydreaming - these are all amazing things that enrich our lives, and staying in the present 24/7 sounds fairly boring. However, thinking and daydreaming should be done in a way that allows your inner self to manifest, and not in a way that the society wants. This is the key element of my personal self-development work.
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It is good you are working on your self. Not many even care.
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What are the stages?
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Enlightment is not a stage as all are initially as equally unaware of what is true.
Truth is based on God's knowledge as the creator of all things.
You can not know anything outside of what God tells you as God is the only source of knowledge concerning enlightnment.
If you consider religion which is false, CHRISTIANITYS not a religion.
Each person that is stated to be all knowing in a religion seems completely ignorant.
One they never talk about the future.
They never demonstrate spiritual authority in the prescense of others and have equal authority to human beings.
Each enlightened person dies and ceases to continue living.
Bhuddha and Krishna are false gods.
The blue moron Krishna got killed by a hunter who had mistaken him for a deer.
I don't know how an all knowing being didn't know a hunter was going to kill him much less how the hunter mistook a blue man for a brown deer.
The death of bhuddha is rarely known.
Jesus is God only.
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